NOT A DOCTOR, JUST AN M.D.
In what is presented as a success, the 2015 Match, where medical students become doctors and find out if they will be accepted for residency, is over. It’s over and I am one of the 1,093 U.S. students that was rejected by every place that I interviewed. This year I packed up my family and we traveled across the U.S. in an annual cross-country pilgrimage to interview at residency programs. We couldn’t afford to fly. My husband, my infant son and I drove in a 15 year old station wagon, breaking our change jars to sleep in roach motels so that I would have a chance to give them a better life. It was an exhausting journey followed by an anxious month-long wait to find out where we would be living for the next three years. Instead of a better life, the National Resident Matching Program, Oregon Health and Sciences University and the American Medical Association have left us on the curb with over $400,000 dollars in debt and no way to pay it back. A doctor without a residency is unable to practice anywhere and although I hold the title, this is probably the end of the line for me. I labored and sacrificed ten years for a change in my life and I feel like a part of me has died.
After being rejected from the Match, I got to participate in the Supplemental Offer and Acceptance Program (SOAP), a mop up for the residency remainders where you can’t call the programs but they’ll call you if they want to and usually they don’t. You have a one in four chance of getting anything in what is an operatic drama where you sit by your computer and click refresh on your browser hundreds of times a day until you just know that no one wants you and it’s over (I’m paraphrasing an anonymous posting off of one of the student doctor forums). But not really. At the end, there is the Post-SOAP scramble, the last push to find a spot anywhere. That is when you go through the list of all of the programs in the U.S. and you try and get ahold of anyone from any of those programs and if they answer it’s usually a curt, “we’re full,” followed by a click and a ringtone. This process can take weeks and it is emotionally draining. But you do it anyway and then you get anyone who has any influence from the rotations that you did as a student that is willing to do the same on your behalf. When you’ve exhausted every opportunity in the U.S. you look abroad as far as you can imagine and justify packing up your family to move to Saipan if they will just answer your calls, which they don’t. And that is it, it’s over and you are done.
This year about 41,000 people applied for a little over 30,000 positions. This is an all-time high for applicants, but nowhere near what we need to reach if the U.S. is to keep enough doctors for people to have fair access to care. Whatever you think about the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (otherwise known as Obamacare), none of it matters if you can’t actually see a doctor. According to a recent report by the Association of American Medical Colleges, by 2025 we will suffer a shortage of 91,000 doctors. Many doctors are retiring early or just quitting out of frustration with the current situation. Visits are shorter and the wait to get one longer now than ever before. In Oregon it currently takes an average of 13 to 20 days to see a physician (depending on the specialty). If you were sick when you called for an appointment, you had better be cured by the time you get one. Medical schools have responded by pumping up their numbers but residency spots have not corresponded to demand. Even if, like me, you manage to graduate from a top-ranked program like OHSU, a blemish (we call them deficits) on your record means that you will not go on to serve your community and all of your talents and skills will be wasted. The competition is fierce today with a large pool of qualified candidates. I did my best in interviews and I tried to make them understand that I have a genuine desire to practice Family Medicine and focus on under-privileged communities. Not everyone who goes to medical school has the need for a large bank account and a diminutive sports car. Most of us regard this as a calling, a way to serve those who need healing and care. Hour for hour, when your investment in education and training is considered, a physician’s assistant can make more money than a family doctor. A Nurse Practitioner does pretty good too. I chose to take this path because I wanted the autonomy to make health care choices for my patients and be responsible for their healing as a doctor.
Oregon is not alone in its shortage of physicians. Some states, like Kansas, have circled their wagons and don’t let anyone from outside of their own schools into these precious residency slots because they want to keep their own doctors in their state when they are done with residency. I was able to interview in Kansas due to my MPH at Kansas State University and encountered only Kansas University Medical School graduates during my interview. In Oregon it doesn’t matter where you went to medical school, as long as you fit their profile you will get a coveted spot in the Pacific Northwest (PNW). U.S. News and World Report rates OHSU as the fifth most expensive medical school in the world. In the world. With the new campus that went up on the South Waterfront tuition is likely to climb. Yet in my case, despite having the recommendation of a Chief of Surgery from OHSU, after I interviewed for the Preliminary General Surgery program I wasn’t even on their list of possible candidates and they had three spots left open at the end of the Match. I want to do Family Medicine but the Surgery Prelim program interviewed me because of the personal recommendation. I would have really enjoyed working there but OHSU wanted anyone but one of their own to fill what is essentially the bottom of the barrel in residencies.
This is because programs are risk averse. Risk averse is code for everyone wants the same thing - perfect test scores, good teeth, fit and possibly sporty. In Klamath Falls, the OHSU rural track program that I interviewed with, they spent more time asking me about what kind of extreme outdoor adventure activities I was into than actually talking about you know, medicine. As a nearly 40 year old mother of two children with some baggage, I don’t think I fit their mold. Oh, and I bombed the USMLE (a test of tests), until I was diagnosed with ADHD and given testing strategies to sit for eight hours a day in a cramped room with bad fluorescent lights. I knew the answers but I had a hard time sitting through an eight hour computer exam. I passed the two required USMLE exams to enter residency. I went ahead and passed another USMLE test that I normally wouldn’t have to take until the end of my intern year of residency to show what I could do with a little training. Oh, and I went ahead and got an additional degree in Public Health (MPH) just to sweeten the deal.
Failing a test is a big deal for any program to overlook, but my value as a doctor and a student should not be only based on a test that took less than 24 hours of my life. I’ve got ten years of experience as a nurse. Four top-of-their-field doctors that I worked with wrote me strong recommendations and some of them even got on the phone to help me track down a position. I have skills and I’m still eligible to be a doctor in Oregon, I just won’t receive the chance to do an intern year to prove my worth.
You see, I’m a two-time loser. I failed to find a position last year and the further away you get from your graduation, the less attractive you are as a candidate. Programs would rather choose a person who couldn’t get into a U.S. medical school and spent their education in the Caribbean (we call them IMG’s - International Medical Graduates) than a student with a “hyperkinetic disorder”. They might resent this depiction, but I made it into a U.S. program and I’m proud of that. I’ve known for years that I have to work harder than most people to pass tests, but I usually pass them because I’m persistent and smart. I never got an actual diagnosis for ADHD before I took the USMLE tests because of the stigma attached to the condition… that and the $500 dollars that I simply did not ever seem to have. It’s hard enough to be older, poorer, a single mother and of mixed heritage (for the record, until recently I was a single mom who had raised a happy and healthy now 20 year old daughter). When OHSU cancelled their student diversity program I was a bit shocked, but not surprised. I never realized much benefit from it anyway. I do wonder if my pregnancy while interviewing last year affected their decision. This year I was nursing and despite having a spot-on husband who wanted to take the role of Mr. Mom, it is possible that the family-in-tow affected my career opportunities. No program could ever legally admit to this, but the question does linger. I made plenty of mistakes in school but I did well on my rotations and got decent grades. I didn't seek out help for my testing issues early enough. I needed guidance and I didn't look for it in time.
How did it come to this? Isn’t OHSU the shining beacon on the hill that represents what is good and forward thinking about health care in our state? Portland is the city that works hard on its reputation for being inclusive. Don’t we take care of our own? Not really, not unless you come from money. If someone would have told me that my chances of getting into and succeeding at medical school were based on what my parents did for a living, I wouldn’t even have applied. The Association of American Medical Colleges is well aware of this problem. The average medical student in the U.S. comes from a family in the top 15% of income earners. I come from a poor family. In my family you become a nurse if you want to aspire to a better life. In fact, I was a nurse for 10 years, a pretty good one. My mom was in the military and a nurse before me. I remember being told that nurses can’t be doctors but I didn’t let that hold me back. I might have been wrong. Since it is impossible to work while you are a medical student at OHSU it was unfeasible to maintain my license. I’m not even a nurse anymore.
What can the 1,000 odd U.S. graduates and the 8,000 plus IMG’s do with an M.D. and no residency? Nothing. Not a thing, seriously. Try googling it and you’ll see suggestions such as - go into pharmaceutical and medical equipment sales, consult with corporations, become an entrepreneur or have you thought about research? With the exception of sales (and if you’ve met me, you know my tolerance for salespeople is not high) these other opportunities don’t exist. You can’t go into research unless you’ve done research before you went to medical school. You can’t be an entrepreneur unless you know the first thing about business (or come from money). Consulting is just another term for “I’m unemployed, but I still have a clean shirt to wear in public” unless you have a substantial network. Most people in this position go on to other fields and leave this depressing chapter behind them to start again. Almost no one talks about failing to match. For people like me who didn’t have anything to begin with, the repercussions of the decision to go to medical school is just beginning.
Have you ever been behind on a student loan? Have you ever been behind on a doctor’s burden of student loans when they know that you will never be a doctor? They own you. I will never qualify to buy a house. It’s likely that I’ll always drive a junk car (I would bike everywhere like I did in med school, but I can no longer afford to live in the heart of Portland). While at OHSU I sold plasma to pay my electricity bill. Not once, but many months. I even joined the military to get help, but they kicked me out when they saw my credit score. That actually happens. I joined the Air Force and despite telling them that I have bad credit and was declaring bankruptcy, they swore me in. This was right around when we were pulling out of Iraq (which could just be a coincidence) but Uncle Sam booted me after basic training and asked for their money back (and not in a nice way). It’s hard to know that you won’t be able to pass on a family anything to your children.
Why the bottleneck? If we need more people like me, then why isn’t OHSU and the rest of the medical community filling the gap? Why build more schools when we just need more residents? We’ve been stuck near the same rate since the 1990’s. The World Health Organization estimates that there is a shortage of 4.3 million physicians and nurses worldwide. The story is the same wherever you look. Canadians come here because they can’t get into their own anemic programs. Australians look to New Zealand and the Irish go to the UK if they can but none of those countries have enough residencies to provide for their own needs anymore. It’s spooky. It is harder to get into any program that reciprocates with the U.S. than it is to get into a residency here. This lack of health care providers is not an abstract phenomena. There are real human costs - people die. According to a study by the U.S. Senate SubCommittee on Primary Health and Aging more than 45,000 people die in the U.S. each year. Based on population, thats 563 people in Oregon who die every year because it took them too long to get a doctor’s appointment. Every day there are almost two preventable deaths in Oregon. Because of our under-served rural population that number is probably much higher. Even with all of the public and private funded residencies not one of those doctors goes further East than Klamath Falls or Hood River. The majority of our state sees no benefits from these programs.
At about $45,000 - $52,000 dollars a year for 80 hours a week of work, Medical Residents are a bargain. If you end up in the emergency room late at night, chances are you are seeing a resident. In a hospital you are more likely to see a resident first. At a free-clinic, probably a resident. The workload is legendary and the stress incredible, but we fight for these positions. Why wouldn’t OHSU and Oregon want as many of these as we can get? We can put up or take down billboards that say “Oregon Cares” but it is the doctors, residents, nurses and staff that do the actual caring. I may have a lot to say about OHSU and its politics, but it is a good school and everyone there is dedicated to quality. There are incredible teachers who took their time and energy to make sure that I had the substantial medical knowledge that I need to save your life. OHSU, for the most part, made a strong and positive impression on me. It is a top-ranked school and they’ve built a shiny new building to prove that.
The problem is - what will OHSU do when there are more and more students like me? Most medical schools are increasing their student load, but residencies still fall far behind in capacity. Would fewer people die if I would have been able to get a spot? I can actually say, yes. I would have saved lives. It is what I was trained to do. With more doctors people will get the care when they need it. Instead, I’m scrambling for a place on a subsidized-housing waitlist near felony flats and applying for a SNAP card (food stamps). We’ve blown most of our resources on this eventful journey. I love my family too much to give up. I'll keep calling and applying and working my connections for any chance out there but I’m also going to use my MPH, not my MD, to find any job I can. Chances are something will open up at a rural county in a public health position where I can make $28,000 and a difference. I’ll maintain my dignity this way but this is probably what my student loans will cost a year. I’ve been through worse. Like most overeducated-underpaid Portlanders, I’ll get by somehow - really, I will. Don’t we always?
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ReplyDeleteHey, consider entering General Preventive Medicine and Public Health. You've already got the MPH. This places you for leadership roles in various population-health positions. You'd get paid a hell of a lot more than $28k. It's one of my fields and gives you enormous flexibility for job-finding. Google the various residencies, call them, or contact the ACPM or ABPM and ask for a list of programs.
ReplyDeleteI went through the list and saw only a handful that do PGY-1 positions but this could be a good recommendation. Certainly worth asking about.
DeleteAlso, you could get PGY-1, and have to apply for residency later.
DeleteLook into Meharry Medical College. I know the cycle has passed, but HBCU's tend to be more family oriented anyway. Howard University, Morehouse and Meharry
DeleteIt looks like there are some places where you can work as an intern or physician assistant without the match- for example, www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0808-caplan-doctor-shortage-20140808-story.html
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These licenses currently are not available. According to the MO Medical Licensing Board they may become available sometime in 2017.
DeleteDid you try applying to any branch of the armed forces? They're always in need of more docs. Especially if you're already a med school graduate.
ReplyDeleteIn the article she states she actually got sworn in, did bootcamp, and then the kicked her out due to her bad credit stemming from her educational debt...
DeleteThe armed forces consider you a security threat if you owe too much money.
DeleteI know that you can't get a security clearance while having debt but I have never in my life heard of somebody getting kicked out for having school debt.
DeleteI knew a lot of guys going in with med school loans that were on repayment programs with no problems at all.
It happened because of prior non-school related debt. I appealed it once and filed bankruptcy shortly afterward but they discharge me before a second appeal.
DeleteOn another thread I read that the MATCH percentages are lower than what is put out by the official mouthpieces. When you factor in the no rank list group and the withdrawals the actual statistics for AMGS range from 63 to 75% and for IMG/FMG the number is around 35%. I am a high school math teacher. I did the numbers myself and fact checked the numbers. He was right. The 35% also includes thousands of AMGS that did not make it in the general group set that did match. Despite these catastrophic numbers I am interested in the med school challenge. If I don't match, no worries because the completion of an MD degree will be an achievement and an end in itself. At this point you must begin to get creative. After reading your beautiful article, an idea came to mind. Have you thought of pitching the idea of being a free resident to any hospital or health care setting that would take you? I was wondering why would you be turned down? If residents are a bargain at under 50k/year what about an unpaid resident at 0/year? It's a thought I would pursue if all other options were closed.
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ReplyDeleteWhere does the AOA or osteopathic physicians play into this? i.e. competing for M.D residencies
ReplyDeleteThe generalization is that MD > DO > FMG > IMG.
DeleteHowever, there are several factors involved. Step scores in particular if good enough can trump this hierarchy. Which is why, justifiably or not, they are considered to be the most important factor in obtaining a residency.
Other factors such as citizenship, grades, etc all have a role.
DO>MD>FMG>IMG
DeleteDOs get about 200 more hours of training. Many that do MD programs sit both the COMLEX and USMLE.
The AOA has increased it's funded residency spots in primary care the last 5 years running (until this year, 2015). They are trying to figure out what is going to happen with the AOA and ACGME merger.
FMG = IMG ; same thing, different names
DeleteAOA has their own residency programs as well. Although, the ACGME and AOA are merging
DeleteAOA has their own residency programs as well. Although, the ACGME and AOA are merging
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ReplyDeleteI failed a course as a MS1 and now I am scared I'll be in your position in 3 years.
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DeleteI am an IMG and I have faced the same situation for 3 years. But you have a MPH degree, use it... In any good university hospital there will be many clinical research jobs for which they will love to have you. Try working as an epidemiologist at local or state level. None of these will make you resident, but they will help you pay bills and if you are lucky next year you will be a resident.
ReplyDeleteI don't know... what I hear of researchers is that they are paid so little that I believe their salary would literally only cover her monthly student debt payments, without rent. When we started residency, my husband's post-tax take home was exactly equal to our rent plus our student loan payments, and we started at $52,500 back in 2009, which I believe is significantly more than you can make doing post-doc type research :(
DeleteOh my god which Caribbean? Can you apply for residency again? Or no?
DeleteThank you for sharing your story - it highlights much of what is wrong with medical education in this country, particularly with the madness of the Match process. As someone who successfully matched into a FM program this year who is passionate about healthcare transformation and compassionate patient care, I am deeply saddened that someone like you - whose perspective we so desparately need in medicine - will be unable to join me. I would have proudly served by your side as an intern, and I hope that someday I will still be able to call you a colleague. Best of luck to you.
ReplyDeleteI am so sorry you're going through this. It's not fair and it's not right. You're a beautiful writer and very insightful. Your positive attributes will win out in the end--you never know what the future holds. I wish you the best. As a resident now, I can tell you that someone like you truly deserves a spot. Our system for selecting candidates is broken. I wish you the best, and believe in the end good things happen to good people.
ReplyDeleteYou're a great writer and your emotions come through. Consider using your experience and indie publishing to help the many people who suffer similar outcomes but don't have the strength to stand and express their feelings.
ReplyDeleteThere are many things that you can do with your MD outside of medicine. The first step to seeing all of them is to understand medical culture and reboot your brain to see how people turn pain and passion to income.
I'm sorry for what you're going through. Please look into IBR and Public Service Loan Forgiveness. You would pay only a portion of your salary for 10 years and your loan will be forgiven.
ReplyDeleteYou need to know that there are other options. The Gary Methodist Hospital in Gary ,Indiana runs a family medicine program that does not participate in the match. It is one of the hospitals that I practice at; I trained at the University of Illinois Hospital and is a very similar place. We practice good quality medicine and take care of a rather complicated patient population. You have to be smart to train here . We have an exceptionally well trained and smart nursing staff. Many of our grads stay here and that is the idea. There is loan forgiveness to practice here. Some without loans go back home You may call me at my office at 219-769-7650 and I will direct you Mary Vanko MD
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ReplyDeleteSo so sorry to read this. My husband was one of the IMG's who didn't match in the 2014 match but was able to scramble post-SOAP into a preliminary position and he got VERY lucky and matched this year into a categorical surgery spot. But I seriously ache for you and what your family is going through. I myself have a 21 mo old daughter and was devastated when my husband didn't match initially. I hope to come back to this blog of yours in the future and see that things have worked out for you. If you want, you can read our story at
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Did you ever consider the fact that there are some IMGs that are way more qualified to fill those positions than US graduates that barely passed Step1? Sorry you had to go through all of these, but matching is a statistical game and your profile didn't fit the bill. Maybe its unfair but that is how it is.
ReplyDeleteShe is going to be excellent doctor. What is mostly lacking in most doctors that she has passion. Your comment is very unnecessary, You can decide if someone is more qualified based on scores alone.
DeleteDid you know that residency positions are paid for by US TAX DOLLARS? That's right - they are paid for through MEDICARE.
DeleteIf US tax dollars are paying for these positions their first priority should be to US Graduates.
Did you know that residency positions are paid for by US TAX DOLLARS? That's right - they are paid for through MEDICARE.
DeleteIf US tax dollars are paying for these positions their first priority should be to US Graduates.
Even if you got a perfect score on the STEPS, what does it matter? The insurance companies dictate to doctors procedures and medications. All your bookish knowledge is just a hoop you have to get through to practice. The elitist point you make is a non sequitur argument.
DeleteI volunteered at a hospital and poured over hundreds of test results and procedures and medications. The pattern was undeniable. It was as simple as a reducible set of if then statements. The correlation between conditions and prescribtions was firmly established. So many years of medical school training to become an automaton.
When I asked two of the attendings I knew they confirmed my conclusions. The insurance companies dictate to the doctors what can and can't be done. Their latitude of freedom is severely restricted. They told me the actual day to day used very little of what they learned in med school.
So the snarly elitist point made that an IMG scoring in the 99th percentile versus a barely passing AMG is non-sequitur. The AMG can do the job just the same when the work consists of a reducible set of if then statements dictated by insurance companies.
Thank you for sharing. Missouri passed a law last year allowing MDs to practice in rural areas without a residency - the program isn't running yet, but (fingers crossed) they're hoping to get things going (and start accepting applications) by fall 2015. http://www.pr.mo.gov/healingarts.asp
ReplyDeleteVery interesting post. I just had one question about something you wrote. You said that you were contemplating moving to Saipan, but they never called. Does Saipan have a residency program? I know they have funding for a one month residency rotation through UCSF, but I didn't know they have anything permanent. Thanks.
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ReplyDeleteThe professionals that are salivating ... as he says ... I don't think np's desire such patients as much as they are perhaps better equipped to care for these patients! I get excited when I get consults on patients that the doctors are asking me to manage because they simply have exhausted their tool box ... This is difficult to control symptoms ... and difficult families and psychosocial issues ... as well as undecided families as far as their goals of care. So ... I suppose I salivate at the chance to say -- hey this recommendation is what you need!
ReplyDeleteI should also say that I like being a consultant. I do not wish to take over the hospitalist or pcp role.
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US is being manipulated via economics to be destroyed in under 10 years time. Hence lack of funding and doctors with regards to spots.
ReplyDeleteI have heard you can practice as a locum MD in miami, without a residency...
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